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The Beatrice Six and the Murder of Helen Wilson (Part 1)

In the heart of Nebraska, the serene town of Beatrice is shattered when Helen Wilson, a local wholly loved by her community, is brutally murdered in her own home, leaving the community in a state of terror. The suspect pool was very small and early leads lead to a promising arrest. However, DNA would prove the Beatrice Police Department had the wrong guy. Following Helen's murder, and the gruesome nature of the crime sets off a frenzy of suspicion and paranoia, eventually culminating in the arrest and conviction of six locals- Joseph White, Thomas Winslow, Ada JoAnn Taylor, Debra Shelden, James Dean and Kathy Gonzalez- each claiming innocence. As the years drag on, the eerie realization dawns that the true horror lies not just in the murders themselves but in the sinister forces within the justice system that condemned the wrong people. Dark secrets surface, revealing a web of corruption, coercion, and manipulation. This case highlights the malleability of the mind, specifically a person's memories of events and the hope that technology such as DNA testing can bring to criminal cases.
 
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​​Art for the podcast was created by Kelly Steen. Editing/Production for the podcast by Bltzwolff (bltzwolff@gmail.com).
​WILDCIDE Podcast and any content posted is presented solely for general informational, educational, and entertainment purposes. The use of information on this podcast or materials linked from this podcast or website is at the user’s own risk. It is not intended as a substitute for the advice of a physician, professional coach, psychotherapist, or other qualified professional, diagnosis, or treatment. Users should not disregard or delay in obtaining medical advice for any medical or mental health condition they may have and should seek the assistance of their healthcare professionals for any such conditions. 
 
References:
Aviv, R. (2017, June 12). Remembering the murder you didn’t commit. The New Yorker. https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/06/19/remembering-the-murder-you-didnt-commit 
Duggan, J. (2009, May 4). Part One: Murder in Apartment 4. Lincoln Journal Star. https://journalstar.com/special-section/presumed-guilty/part-one-murder-in-apartment-4/article_e748ddcd-00a2-54af-aeb0-1a7184814445.htmlDuggan, J. (2009, May 4). Part two: The search for a killer. Lincoln Journal Star. https://journalstar.com/special-section/presumed-guilty/part-two-the-search-for-a-killer/article_5a105087-d813-5b77-b8b4-826bbf6297a8.html
Ferak, J. (2016, July 20). Investigator Tina Vath unraveled Beatrice’s FAILURE OF JUSTICE homicide case • WildBlue Press true crime website. WildBlue Press True Crime Website. https://wildbluepress.com/investigator-vath-unraveled-beatrices-failure-justice/James Dean - National Registry of Exonerations. (n.d.). https://www.law.umich.edu/special/exoneration/Pages/casedetail.aspx?caseid=3164
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Feb 07, 1985, page 1 - Beatrice Daily Sun at Newspapers.com. (n.d.). Newspapers.com. https://www.newspapers.com/image/507648361/?match=1&terms=%22Helen%20Wilson%22Feb 12, 1985, page 1 - Beatrice Daily Sun at Newspapers.com. (n.d.). Newspapers.com. https://www.newspapers.com/image/507649103/?match=1&terms=%22Helen%20Wilson%22

The Sterilization of Leilani Muir

The sterilization of Leilani Muir is a stark example of the human rights violations that can occur when governments adopt policies based on discriminatory ideologies. Muir's successful legal battle against the Alberta government not only brought her personal justice but also exposed the broader injustices of the eugenics movement in Canada. Her case serves as a powerful reminder of the need to protect individual rights, ensure informed consent, and confront the legacy of eugenics in modern society. The story of Leilani Muir continues to resonate as a cautionary tale about the dangers of allowing prejudice and pseudoscience to dictate public policy.
 
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​​Art for the podcast was created by Kelly Steen. Editing/Production for the podcast by Bltzwolff (bltzwolff@gmail.com).
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References:
Muir, L. (2014). A whisper past: Childless after eugenic sterilization in Alberta: A memoir. FriesenPress.
The Sterilization of Leilani Muir - NFB Collection
CBS News. (2016, March 16). Advocate for Alberta’s sterilization victims dies | CBC News. CBCnews. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/leilani-muir-advocate-for-alberta-s-sterilization-victims-dies-1.3492829
Dyck, E. (2014). Review of A whisper past: childless after eugenic  sterilization in alberta, a memoir by leilani  muir. Alberta Journal of Educational Research, Vol. 63.3, Fall 2017, 321-324, 63.3(Fall 2017), 321–324. Retrieved August 18, 2024, from file:///C:/Users/baile/Downloads/admin,+AJER+2001BR+Galley.pdf.
Kowalchuk, K., & Scott, S. (2023, March 14). Leilani Muir and eugenics in Alberta. Edmonton City as Museum Project ECAMP. https://citymuseumedmonton.ca/2023/03/14/leilani-muir-and-eugenics-in-alberta/#muir1
Wikipedia. (2024, June 3). Leilani Muir. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leilani_Muir

Wildcide Husbands React: The Case of Agneta Westlund

High school sweethearts Agneta and Ingemar Westlund decided to retire to a life of retirement piddling around the house, walking down to the lakes, and enjoying their dog Yocke in the town of Loftahammar, Sweden. Their two daughters were grown and living in Stockholm and the two were anticipating many more years together on their little farm. However, on September 8, 2008 life would come crashing down for the Westlunds. Join Chelsea with special guests Lucas and Zach, aka “The Husbands” and we theorize how Agneta would end up in a pool of her own blood brutally beaten beside a serene lake in eastern Sweden. The truth is stranger than fiction on this one. 
Editor: Zach the Husband in place of Bailey.
92-The-Script. (n.d.). True Crime Cases. https://truecrimecases.com/P04/90-to-99-Miscellaneous/91-Script/92-The-Script/The unusual death of Agneta Westlund. (n.d.). Criminal. https://vocal.media/criminal/the-unusual-death-of-agneta-westlundBBC World Service - The documentary podcast, Woman found dead by the Lake Shore. (n.d.). BBC. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p04ln1n0Mercedes, J. (2024, March 7). The bizarre murder of Agneta Westlund - obscure horror - medium. Medium. https://medium.com/obscure-horror/the-bizarre-murder-of-agneta-westlund-48ee31862e0cIvens, F. (2009, November 28). escenic. The Telegraph. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/6678397/Sweden-woman-murdered-by-elk-not-husband.html 

The Kidnapping and Murder of Leiby Kletzky

TRIGGER WARNING: This episode includes content around the kidnapping and murder of a child. Listener discretion is advised.
Brooklyn, 2011. Eight year old Yehudah “Leiby” Kletzky had begged his mother to let him walk the few city blocks to his Hasidic Jewish summer camp. He didn’t want to ride the bus and his mother agreed but only after they both practiced the simple route too and from his summer camp. Leiby’s mother waited at their predetermined spot to hear about her little boy’s first day at camp but unfortunately that first day of camp, July 11, 2011 would be the last day that his family saw sweet Leiby. A missing boy in the Borough Park community of Brooklyn, NY would not be tolerated by the community. Every day men and women took to the streets in hopes to bring a neighbor home. One member would go as far as playing the role of private investigator. It was in this unfamiliar role of P.I. that Yaakov German would discover the truth of what happen to that little boy by viewing grainy surveillance videos. How could this happen to a boy in a guarded, close knit, Hasidic Jewish community. Time was running out and every effort was made to bring justice for Leiby Kletzky.
 
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​​Art for the podcast was created by Kelly Steen. Editing/Production for the podcast by Bltzwolff (bltzwolff@gmail.com).
​WILDCIDE Podcast and any content posted is presented solely for general informational, educational, and entertainment purposes. The use of information on this podcast or materials linked from this podcast or website is at the user’s own risk. It is not intended as a substitute for the advice of a physician, professional coach, psychotherapist, or other qualified professional, diagnosis, or treatment. Users should not disregard or delay in obtaining medical advice for any medical or mental health condition they may have and should seek the assistance of their healthcare professionals for any such conditions.  
 
References:
Blanco, J. I. (n.d.-b). Levi Aron | Murderpedia, the encyclopedia of murderers. https://murderpedia.org/male.A/a/aron-levi.htm
Admin. (2011, July 15). BrOOklyN, NY - Amateur Sleuth Yaakov German helps cops catch Levi Aron and solve murder of Leiby Kletzky -. VINnews. https://vinnews.com/2011/07/15/brooklyn-ny-amateur-sleuth-yaakov-german-helps-cops-catch-levi-aron-and-solve-murder-of-leiby-kletzky/
Forward. (2017, June 6). Mystery Death Of Killer’s Brother Dredges Up Leiby Kletzky Horror In Hasidic Brooklyn. The Forward. https://forward.com/news/373832/mystery-death-leiby-kletzky-killer-hasidic/
Shaer, M. (2011, December 2). The story behind the murder of Leiby Kletzky and the trial of Levi Aron -- New York Magazine - NYMaG. New York Magazine. https://nymag.com/news/features/levi-aron-2011-12/
Wikipedia contributors. (2024, June 21). List of Hasidic dynasties and groups. Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Hasidic_dynasties_and_groups
Mixson, C. (2017, July 3). Murder mystery: Medical examiner can not determine how killer’s brother died, concludes. Brooklyn Paper. https://www.brooklynpaper.com/murder-mystery-medical-examiner-can-not-determine-how-killers-brother-died-concludes-investigation/
Gardiner, S. (2011, July 14). After Abduction, Suspect Says He Took Boy to Wedding. Wall Street Jounral. Retrieved July 28, 2024, from https://www.wsj.com/articles/BL-METROB-13564

Interview with your Wildcide Host Bailey: All Things Therapy

What a Wildcide Special today! I guess the stars finally aligned for Bailey (one half of the magical Wildcide sister duo) to be in the hot seat today! We also have our wonderful OG Wildcide fangirl, future Wildcide Mascot and dear friend Melanie as our guest co-host today to interview Bailey. Talk about a special, am I right? We have a listener on our show and we get to peek inside Bailey’s therapist brain. You will not want to miss this super fun and informative interview about all things therapy; answering questions that our wonderful listeners provided for us to ask. This interview takes the cake!
A little about Bailey:
Bailey is a Licensed Professional Counselor, Certified Sex Addiction Therapist (CSAT), MRAS (Masters Level Registered Addiction Specialist) and an EMDR provider. She has worked in the mental health and addiction fields for twelve years and has spent most of her time and experience working with trauma, substance abuse and sex addiction. She has worked in many settings including inpatient psychiatric facilities, to inpatient substance abuse facilities, outpatient treatment programs, private practice and as a contractor for the federal government.

Reborn to Die: The Tragic Death of Candace Newmaker

TRIGGER WARNING: This episode includes content around child abuse, child endangerment and negligent homicide of a child. Listener discretion is advised.
Candace Elizabeth Newmaker was born Candace Tiara Elmore on November 19, 1989 in rural North Carolina. She was born into poverty and her mother was a second-generation foster child. The same fate unfortunately came for Candace herself when she was removed from her mother’s custody at the age of 5. After two years in foster care, Candace was formally adopted by a stable and successful single woman, Jeane Newmaker, who christened Candace with her new name and tried to give her the world. However, the transition was rough for both Candace and Jeane. Candace was struggling being away from her biological mother, she acted out, and did not seem able to bond with Jeane. After seeing specialist after specialist and years of therapy and medications, in an effort to treat Candace’s believed attachment disorder, Jeane brought her to a highly-recommended therapy center in Colorado. It was there where, at just 10 years old, Candace Newmaker met a tragic end during an experimental “rebirthing” treatment. The boundaries between healing and harm blurred, leaving a community in shock and a family shattered. This horrific incident exposed the dangers of unregulated and unproven therapeutic practices. This one's a whole lot y'all. Listen in as Bailey gives her perspective as a therapist and provides clinical insights into this heartbreaking case.
**Don’t miss the interview with one-half of your favorite Wildcide hosts, Bailey, as she answers listener’s questions regarding all things trauma, therapy, addiction and mental health. Interview drops Friday 8/2/24.
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Make sure to get updates by following us on Instagram (@wildcidepodcast) and Facebook (Wildcide Podcast). Don’t forget Wildcide Wednesdays- new episodes drop every Wednesday at 6am EST. Interviews will drop every other Friday at 6am EST.
​​Art for the podcast was created by Kelly Steen. Editing/Production for the podcast by Bltzwolff (bltzwolff@gmail.com).
​WILDCIDE Podcast and any content posted is presented solely for general informational, educational, and entertainment purposes. The use of information on this podcast or materials linked from this podcast or website is at the user’s own risk. It is not intended as a substitute for the advice of a physician, professional coach, psychotherapist, or other qualified professional, diagnosis, or treatment. Users should not disregard or delay in obtaining medical advice for any medical or mental health condition they may have and should seek the assistance of their healthcare professionals for any such conditions.  
 
References:
https://culteducation.com/group/1115-rebirthing/17893-her-name-was-candace.html
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1174742/
SESSION TRANSCRIPT: https://www.parkaman.com/transcript-candace-newmakers-tape/
http://www.childrenintherapy.org/proponents/cline.html
https://allthatsinteresting.com/candace-newmaker
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK537155/
https://culteducation.com/group/1115-rebirthing/17893-her-name-was-candace.html
https://psycnet.apa.org/doiLanding?doi=10.1111%2Fcpsp.12379
BOOK: Mercer, J., Sarner, L., & Rosa, L. (2003). Attachment therapy on trial: The torture and death of Candace Newmaker. Praeger.
https://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=124076&page=1
https://www.bmj.com/content/322/7293/1014.6.short
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http://www.childrenintherapy.org/victims/newmaker.html
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https://www.cnn.com/2001/LAW/04/17/rebirthing.ban/

Tainted Love: The Case of Gailen Eugene "Gene" Thurnau II

By 2006, Gailen Eugene “Gene” Thurnau II was an accomplished man who had a successful stint in the Air Force and was in the midst of a successful career as an air traffic controller. He had just moved from Nebraska to St. Petersburg, FL to be closer to family. He was in a new, loving relationship with his co-worker Juanita “Jaye Jaye” Defrenze, and was in a good place in life. Gene was extroverted, friendly, and gregarious so he naturally struck up a friendship with his colleague Robert “Bob” Peterson. After years of working together and a friendship built amongst Gene, Jaye Jaye and Bob, tragedy would strike. On November 1, 2006, Jaye Jaye returned home to an empty house finding Gene’s bloody clothes, a bullet on the ground and an envelope addressed to Gene with a letter enclosed: a letter that detailed unrequited love, sexual desires, and demands for erotic exploration. This case is unfathomable and tragic for everyone involved. It really challenges the preconceived notions of social norms, boundaries and the emotional turmoil of hindsight being 20/20.
 
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Make sure to get updates by following us on Instagram (@wildcidepodcast) and Facebook (Wildcide Podcast). Don’t forget Wildcide Wednesdays- new episodes drop every Wednesday at 6am EST. Interviews will drop every other Friday at 6am EST.
​​Art for the podcast was created by Kelly Steen. Editing/Production for the podcast by Bltzwolff (bltzwolff@gmail.com).
​WILDCIDE Podcast and any content posted is presented solely for general informational, educational, and entertainment purposes. The use of information on this podcast or materials linked from this podcast or website is at the user’s own risk. It is not intended as a substitute for the advice of a physician, professional coach, psychotherapist, or other qualified professional, diagnosis, or treatment. Users should not disregard or delay in obtaining medical advice for any medical or mental health condition they may have and should seek the assistance of their healthcare professionals for any such conditions.  
 
References:
Beyond Crime. (2017, December 9). Stranger in my home | S2E1 | star-crossed murder. YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPz1qPdRzBc
Pace, G. (2019a, December 9). Bob kept his love for gene secret until tragic end. Tampa Bay Times. https://www.tampabay.com/archive/2007/03/16/bob-kept-his-love-for-gene-secret-until-tragic-end/
Pace, G. (2019b, December 9). Mystery grows as bodies found. Tampa Bay Times. https://www.tampabay.com/archive/2006/11/04/mystery-grows-as-bodies-found/
Robson, M. (2022, October 12). The most stressful job in the world? what it’s really like to be an air traffic controller. Forbes. https://www.forbes.com/sites/michelerobson/2020/05/29/the-most-stressful-job-in-the-world-what-its-really-like-to-be-an-air-traffic-controller/
Hillsborough Obituaries. (2006, November 8). Galen (gene) Thurnau, II obit. Newspapers.com. https://www.newspapers.com/article/tampa-bay-times-galen-gene-thurnau-ii/21766294/
Makara-Studzińska M, Załuski M, Jagielski P, Wójcik-Małek D, Szelepajło M. An Exploration of Perceived Stress, Burnout Syndrome, and Self-Efficacy in a Group of Polish Air Traffic Controllers and Maritime Navigators: Similarities and Differences. Int J Environ Res Public Health. 2020 Dec 23;18(1):53. doi: 10.3390/ijerph18010053. PMID: 33374735; PMCID: PMC7793528.

Criminal Profiling with Renowned Profiler Mark Safarik

Meet the oz behind the curtains. Today, Bailey and Chelsea interview Mark Safarik Supervisory Special Agent, F.B.I. (Ret.). Not only is he awesome in every way, he’s also the GOAT when it comes to behavioral analysis. Listen in as Mark walks us through what criminal profiling actually is and his approach to getting inside criminal minds and catching killers. To access Mark’s Website, click here.  To purchase Mark's book, click here. 
About Mark:
Mark E. Safarik M.S., V.S.M.
Supervisory Special Agent, Behavioral Analysis Unit - Federal Bureau of Investigation (Ret.)
Director - Forensic Behavioral Services International
Mark Safarik was a senior Federal Bureau of Investigation’s Behavioral Analysis Unit member. During that time, he established himself as an internationally recognized expert in analyzing and interpreting violent criminal behavior. His law enforcement career spans over 31 years, during which time he worked in all levels of policework, from patrol as a beat cop to a detective working homicides. He served 23 years with the FBI – 12 of those as a criminal profiler. He led the consultation efforts on high-profile national and international violent crime cases. He lectured at numerous foreign police forces worldwide, sharing his expertise in analyzing homicide and complex crime scene behavior.  
Mr. Safarik has a graduate degree from Boston University and is an adjunct faculty member at Boston College. He is a lecturer at the University of Pennsylvania, a former Armed Forces Institute of Pathology faculty member, and an advisory board member at the Wecht Institute of Forensic Science and Law. He has conducted internationally renowned research on the sexual assault and homicide of elderly females and received the prestigious Jefferson Medal from the University of Virginia for this groundbreaking work. He was awarded the Silver Medal from The Spanish Society of Criminology and Forensic Science, the first non-European to receive this honor. He is a member of the highly respected Vidocq Society, a criminological group that donates its investigative resources to solving cold case homicides. He is well-published in international journals, including the Journal of Forensic Sciences, the International Journal of Homicide Studies, and the Journal of Interpersonal Violence. He has authored numerous book chapters on homicide, including the newest text on sexual homicide, the Routledge International Handbook of Sexual Homicide Studies. His book Spree Killers: Practical Classifications for Law Enforcement and Criminology is hailed as the definitive textbook on this type of multicide.
Mr. Safarik has reviewed and consulted on thousands of national and international crimes of violence, including all types of homicide: serial, mass, spree, and multiple murders, serial sexual assault, and equivocal death analysis. Attorneys in both criminal and civil courts have utilized his expert testimony. He has lent his expert casework to understand many of the world’s most infamous people, including Robert Lee Yates, the Spokane Serial Killer, the Bakersfield mass murderer, the Dating Game Killer Rodney Alcala, serial killer Derrick Todd Lee, female serial killer Sheila LaBarre, family mass murderer Christopher Coleman, Scotland’s World’s End serial killer Angus Sinclair, and high profile staged homicides of police officers.
He has appeared on Dateline, Court TV, Forensic Files, New Detectives, A&E, the History Channel, Oxygen, Discovery ID, and numerous news networks to discuss his cases and analyses. His television series, Killer Instinct, premiered in 2011. He was a longtime consultant for the popular television series CSI: Las Vegas, Bones, and The Blacklist. He has two seasons of Cold Case Homicide television shows in Sweden and Denmark.
Thanks for listening! If you want to support us, you can follow/subscribe to “WILDCIDE” on your favorite podcast listening app. While you’re there, please rate and leave us a review – we would really appreciate it! You can also visit our website at www.wildcidepodcast.com (merch now available!) 
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​​Art for the podcast was created by Kelly Steen. Editing/Production for the podcast by Bltzwolff (bltzwolff@gmail.com).
​WILDCIDE Podcast and any content posted is presented solely for general informational, educational, and entertainment purposes. The use of information on this podcast or materials linked from this podcast or website is at the user’s own risk. It is not intended as a substitute for the advice of a physician, professional coach, psychotherapist, or other qualified professional, diagnosis, or treatment. Users should not disregard or delay in obtaining medical advice for any medical or mental health condition they may have and should seek the assistance of their healthcare professionals for any such conditions.  
 

Inside the Criminal Mind: The Murder of Lisa Dahm Carlson

Lisa Carlson (nee Dahm) grew up in a military family and after moving around quite a bit throughout her childhood, Lisa and her family finally settled down in Tacoma, Washington. Not long after graduating high school and pursuing a career in the health field, Lisa ended up meeting and marrying a man named Daniel Carlson in 1994. By all accounts, Lisa was a wonderful mother to the couple’s twin boys and was described as vivacious and full of life. Tragically, that all came to an end on July 18, 1998. Daniel Carlson came home from work to find his wife murdered on the living room sofa posed in a sexually graphic way. Pierce County investigators all agreed that the crime scene was unlike anything they had ever seen in their careers, and it just didn’t make sense. For three years, Lisa’s case would remain open but eventually went cold. It wasn’t until investigators brought in the world-renowned retired FBI profiler Mark Safarik before there would any new leads in Lisa’s murder investigation. This case highlights the importance of utilizing behavioral analysis as a tool in murder investigations to bring unique perspectives that are often crucial in solving cases. Hang out with us as we wade through the bizarreness that is this case and while we thank goodness for people like Mark Safarik for helping solve so many cold cases in his career.
***Make sure to tune in on Friday, July 19th to listen to the interview episode with FBI Profiler Mark Safarik as we discuss criminal profiling. ***
 
To watch the full episode of this case: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4x6plx
 
Resources:
Need Help with Enmeshment? Dr. Kenneth Adams is the leader in the field of Enmeshment: https://www.overcomingenmeshment.com/
Enmeshed families: https://www.overcomingenmeshment.com/services/enmeshed-families/
Enmeshed Sons: https://www.overcomingenmeshment.com/services/enmeshed-sons/
Enmeshed Daughters: https://www.overcomingenmeshment.com/services/enmeshed-daughters/
A great Podcast Episode regarding Understanding Enmeshment: https://theadultchair.com/podcasts/256/
A great Podcast Episode regarding Enmeshment, Codependency and Boundaries: https://theadultchair.com/podcasts/284/
Thanks for listening! If you want to support us, you can follow/subscribe to “WILDCIDE” on your favorite podcast listening app. While you’re there, please rate and leave us a review – we would really appreciate it! You can also visit our website at www.wildcidepodcast.com (merch now available!) 
Make sure to get updates by following us on Instagram (@wildcidepodcast) and Facebook (Wildcide Podcast). Don’t forget Wildcide Wednesdays- new episodes drop every Wednesday at 6am EST. Interviews will drop every other Friday at 6am EST.
​​Art for the podcast was created by Kelly Steen. Editing/Production for the podcast by Bltzwolff (bltzwolff@gmail.com).
​WILDCIDE Podcast and any content posted is presented solely for general informational, educational, and entertainment purposes. The use of information on this podcast or materials linked from this podcast or website is at the user’s own risk. It is not intended as a substitute for the advice of a physician, professional coach, psychotherapist, or other qualified professional, diagnosis, or treatment. Users should not disregard or delay in obtaining medical advice for any medical or mental health condition they may have and should seek the assistance of their healthcare professionals for any such conditions.  
 
References:
Clarridge, C. (2003, April 4). The Seattle Times. https://archive.seattletimes.com/archive/?date=20030404&slug=murder04m
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Little Shop of Horrors: The Murders of Holger Holz and Manfred Hinterberger

Goidsargi Estibaliz Carranza Zabala, better known as Esti, wanted what most women want, a happy, married, successful life. Fleeing from her life in Spain after the heartbreaking end of a 5 year relationship, Esti found a new in Germany and then Austria working at an ice cream parlor and quickly finding love and then a marriage to Holgen Holz…then Manfred Hinterberger… then Roland R. When the relationships would turn sour her fantasies of killing or revenge would overtake her and her preferred tools: a gun, chainsaw, and cement. Planning is key when devious actions are involved, unfortunately sometimes parts are left exposed. Relationships can be as sweet as ice cream but can also land you in a freezer. 
 
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