WILDCIDE
Wildcide is a unique true crime podcast that blends the most outrageous real-life cases with expert insights from professionals across the criminal justice field. Hosted by sisters Chelsea, an allied health professional, and Bailey, an experienced therapist, the show delves deep into the psychological and sociological dimensions of each case. With their combined expertise, they aren’t afraid to tackle complex, hard-hitting topics while weaving in just enough light-heartedness to balance the intensity. This approach hopefully helps keep our show engaging and relatable, creating a close-knit community of listeners affectionately known as the Wildciders.

Episodes
Friday Aug 02, 2024
Interview with your Wildcide Host Bailey: All Things Therapy
Friday Aug 02, 2024
Friday Aug 02, 2024
What a Wildcide Special today! I guess the stars finally aligned for Bailey (one half of the magical Wildcide sister duo) to be in the hot seat today! We also have our wonderful OG Wildcide fangirl, future Wildcide Mascot and dear friend Melanie as our guest co-host today to interview Bailey. Talk about a special, am I right? We have a listener on our show and we get to peek inside Bailey’s therapist brain. You will not want to miss this super fun and informative interview about all things therapy; answering questions that our wonderful listeners provided for us to ask. This interview takes the cake!
A little about Bailey:
Bailey is a Licensed Professional Counselor, Certified Sex Addiction Therapist (CSAT), MRAS (Masters Level Registered Addiction Specialist) and an EMDR provider. She has worked in the mental health and addiction fields for twelve years and has spent most of her time and experience working with trauma, substance abuse and sex addiction. She has worked in many settings including inpatient psychiatric facilities, to inpatient substance abuse facilities, outpatient treatment programs, private practice and as a contractor for the federal government.
Wednesday Jul 31, 2024
Reborn to Die: The Tragic Death of Candace Newmaker
Wednesday Jul 31, 2024
Wednesday Jul 31, 2024
TRIGGER WARNING: This episode includes content around child abuse, child endangerment and negligent homicide of a child. Listener discretion is advised.
Candace Elizabeth Newmaker was born Candace Tiara Elmore on November 19, 1989 in rural North Carolina. She was born into poverty and her mother was a second-generation foster child. The same fate unfortunately came for Candace herself when she was removed from her mother’s custody at the age of 5. After two years in foster care, Candace was formally adopted by a stable and successful single woman, Jeane Newmaker, who christened Candace with her new name and tried to give her the world. However, the transition was rough for both Candace and Jeane. Candace was struggling being away from her biological mother, she acted out, and did not seem able to bond with Jeane. After seeing specialist after specialist and years of therapy and medications, in an effort to treat Candace’s believed attachment disorder, Jeane brought her to a highly-recommended therapy center in Colorado. It was there where, at just 10 years old, Candace Newmaker met a tragic end during an experimental “rebirthing” treatment. The boundaries between healing and harm blurred, leaving a community in shock and a family shattered. This horrific incident exposed the dangers of unregulated and unproven therapeutic practices. This one's a whole lot y'all. Listen in as Bailey gives her perspective as a therapist and provides clinical insights into this heartbreaking case.
**Don’t miss the interview with one-half of your favorite Wildcide hosts, Bailey, as she answers listener’s questions regarding all things trauma, therapy, addiction and mental health. Interview drops Friday 8/2/24.
Thanks for listening! If you want to support us, you can follow/subscribe to “WILDCIDE” on your favorite podcast listening app. While you’re there, please rate and leave us a review – we would really appreciate it! You can also visit our website at www.wildcidepodcast.com (merch now available!)
Make sure to get updates by following us on Instagram (@wildcidepodcast) and Facebook (Wildcide Podcast). Don’t forget Wildcide Wednesdays- new episodes drop every Wednesday at 6am EST. Interviews will drop every other Friday at 6am EST.
Art for the podcast was created by Kelly Steen. Editing/Production for the podcast by Bltzwolff (bltzwolff@gmail.com).
WILDCIDE Podcast and any content posted is presented solely for general informational, educational, and entertainment purposes. The use of information on this podcast or materials linked from this podcast or website is at the user’s own risk. It is not intended as a substitute for the advice of a physician, professional coach, psychotherapist, or other qualified professional, diagnosis, or treatment. Users should not disregard or delay in obtaining medical advice for any medical or mental health condition they may have and should seek the assistance of their healthcare professionals for any such conditions.
References:
https://culteducation.com/group/1115-rebirthing/17893-her-name-was-candace.html
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1174742/
SESSION TRANSCRIPT: https://www.parkaman.com/transcript-candace-newmakers-tape/
http://www.childrenintherapy.org/proponents/cline.html
https://allthatsinteresting.com/candace-newmaker
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK537155/
https://culteducation.com/group/1115-rebirthing/17893-her-name-was-candace.html
https://psycnet.apa.org/doiLanding?doi=10.1111%2Fcpsp.12379
BOOK: Mercer, J., Sarner, L., & Rosa, L. (2003). Attachment therapy on trial: The torture and death of Candace Newmaker. Praeger.
https://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=124076&page=1
https://www.bmj.com/content/322/7293/1014.6.short
https://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/05/us/national-briefing-rockies-colorado-probation-in-suffocation-death.html
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2001-apr-21-mn-53812-story.html
https://poundpuplegacy.org/document/130002
https://web.archive.org/web/20080907130015/http://www.kidscomefirst.info/msoAB8FC.pdf
http://www.childrenintherapy.org/victims/newmaker.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20080806161320/http://cbs4denver.com/local/denver.rebirthing.watkins.2.786701.html
https://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=93074&page=1
https://www.upi.com/Top_News/2001/10/12/No-prison-for-mother-in-rebirthing-death/16191002897732/
https://www.cnn.com/2001/LAW/04/17/rebirthing.ban/
Wednesday Jul 24, 2024
Tainted Love: The Case of Gailen Eugene "Gene" Thurnau II
Wednesday Jul 24, 2024
Wednesday Jul 24, 2024
By 2006, Gailen Eugene “Gene” Thurnau II was an accomplished man who had a successful stint in the Air Force and was in the midst of a successful career as an air traffic controller. He had just moved from Nebraska to St. Petersburg, FL to be closer to family. He was in a new, loving relationship with his co-worker Juanita “Jaye Jaye” Formoso, and was in a good place in life. Gene was extroverted, friendly, and gregarious so he naturally struck up a friendship with his colleague Robert “Bob” Peterson. After years of working together and a friendship built amongst Gene, Jaye Jaye and Bob, tragedy would strike. On November 1, 2006, Jaye Jaye returned home to an empty house finding Gene’s bloody clothes, a bullet on the ground and an envelope addressed to Gene with a letter enclosed: a letter that detailed unrequited love, sexual desires, and demands for erotic exploration. This case is unfathomable and tragic for everyone involved. It really challenges the preconceived notions of social norms, boundaries and the emotional turmoil of hindsight being 20/20.
Thanks for listening! If you want to support us, you can follow/subscribe to “WILDCIDE” on your favorite podcast listening app. While you’re there, please rate and leave us a review – we would really appreciate it! You can also visit our website at www.wildcidepodcast.com (merch now available!)
Make sure to get updates by following us on Instagram (@wildcidepodcast) and Facebook (Wildcide Podcast). Don’t forget Wildcide Wednesdays- new episodes drop every Wednesday at 6am EST. Interviews will drop every other Friday at 6am EST.
Art for the podcast was created by Kelly Steen. Editing/Production for the podcast by Bltzwolff (bltzwolff@gmail.com).
WILDCIDE Podcast and any content posted is presented solely for general informational, educational, and entertainment purposes. The use of information on this podcast or materials linked from this podcast or website is at the user’s own risk. It is not intended as a substitute for the advice of a physician, professional coach, psychotherapist, or other qualified professional, diagnosis, or treatment. Users should not disregard or delay in obtaining medical advice for any medical or mental health condition they may have and should seek the assistance of their healthcare professionals for any such conditions.
References:
Beyond Crime. (2017, December 9). Stranger in my home | S2E1 | star-crossed murder. YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPz1qPdRzBc
Pace, G. (2019a, December 9). Bob kept his love for gene secret until tragic end. Tampa Bay Times. https://www.tampabay.com/archive/2007/03/16/bob-kept-his-love-for-gene-secret-until-tragic-end/
Pace, G. (2019b, December 9). Mystery grows as bodies found. Tampa Bay Times. https://www.tampabay.com/archive/2006/11/04/mystery-grows-as-bodies-found/
Robson, M. (2022, October 12). The most stressful job in the world? what it’s really like to be an air traffic controller. Forbes. https://www.forbes.com/sites/michelerobson/2020/05/29/the-most-stressful-job-in-the-world-what-its-really-like-to-be-an-air-traffic-controller/
Hillsborough Obituaries. (2006, November 8). Galen (gene) Thurnau, II obit. Newspapers.com. https://www.newspapers.com/article/tampa-bay-times-galen-gene-thurnau-ii/21766294/
Makara-Studzińska M, Załuski M, Jagielski P, Wójcik-Małek D, Szelepajło M. An Exploration of Perceived Stress, Burnout Syndrome, and Self-Efficacy in a Group of Polish Air Traffic Controllers and Maritime Navigators: Similarities and Differences. Int J Environ Res Public Health. 2020 Dec 23;18(1):53. doi: 10.3390/ijerph18010053. PMID: 33374735; PMCID: PMC7793528.
Friday Jul 19, 2024
Criminal Profiling with Renowned Profiler Mark Safarik
Friday Jul 19, 2024
Friday Jul 19, 2024
Meet the oz behind the curtains. Today, Bailey and Chelsea interview Mark Safarik Supervisory Special Agent, F.B.I. (Ret.). Not only is he awesome in every way, he’s also the GOAT when it comes to behavioral analysis. Listen in as Mark walks us through what criminal profiling actually is and his approach to getting inside criminal minds and catching killers. To access Mark’s Website, click here. To purchase Mark's book, click here.
About Mark:
Mark E. Safarik M.S., V.S.M.
Supervisory Special Agent, Behavioral Analysis Unit - Federal Bureau of Investigation (Ret.)
Director - Forensic Behavioral Services International
Mark Safarik was a senior Federal Bureau of Investigation’s Behavioral Analysis Unit member. During that time, he established himself as an internationally recognized expert in analyzing and interpreting violent criminal behavior. His law enforcement career spans over 31 years, during which time he worked in all levels of policework, from patrol as a beat cop to a detective working homicides. He served 23 years with the FBI – 12 of those as a criminal profiler. He led the consultation efforts on high-profile national and international violent crime cases. He lectured at numerous foreign police forces worldwide, sharing his expertise in analyzing homicide and complex crime scene behavior.
Mr. Safarik has a graduate degree from Boston University and is an adjunct faculty member at Boston College. He is a lecturer at the University of Pennsylvania, a former Armed Forces Institute of Pathology faculty member, and an advisory board member at the Wecht Institute of Forensic Science and Law. He has conducted internationally renowned research on the sexual assault and homicide of elderly females and received the prestigious Jefferson Medal from the University of Virginia for this groundbreaking work. He was awarded the Silver Medal from The Spanish Society of Criminology and Forensic Science, the first non-European to receive this honor. He is a member of the highly respected Vidocq Society, a criminological group that donates its investigative resources to solving cold case homicides. He is well-published in international journals, including the Journal of Forensic Sciences, the International Journal of Homicide Studies, and the Journal of Interpersonal Violence. He has authored numerous book chapters on homicide, including the newest text on sexual homicide, the Routledge International Handbook of Sexual Homicide Studies. His book Spree Killers: Practical Classifications for Law Enforcement and Criminology is hailed as the definitive textbook on this type of multicide.
Mr. Safarik has reviewed and consulted on thousands of national and international crimes of violence, including all types of homicide: serial, mass, spree, and multiple murders, serial sexual assault, and equivocal death analysis. Attorneys in both criminal and civil courts have utilized his expert testimony. He has lent his expert casework to understand many of the world’s most infamous people, including Robert Lee Yates, the Spokane Serial Killer, the Bakersfield mass murderer, the Dating Game Killer Rodney Alcala, serial killer Derrick Todd Lee, female serial killer Sheila LaBarre, family mass murderer Christopher Coleman, Scotland’s World’s End serial killer Angus Sinclair, and high profile staged homicides of police officers.
He has appeared on Dateline, Court TV, Forensic Files, New Detectives, A&E, the History Channel, Oxygen, Discovery ID, and numerous news networks to discuss his cases and analyses. His television series, Killer Instinct, premiered in 2011. He was a longtime consultant for the popular television series CSI: Las Vegas, Bones, and The Blacklist. He has two seasons of Cold Case Homicide television shows in Sweden and Denmark.
Thanks for listening! If you want to support us, you can follow/subscribe to “WILDCIDE” on your favorite podcast listening app. While you’re there, please rate and leave us a review – we would really appreciate it! You can also visit our website at www.wildcidepodcast.com (merch now available!)
Make sure to get updates by following us on Instagram (@wildcidepodcast) and Facebook (Wildcide Podcast). Don’t forget Wildcide Wednesdays- new episodes drop every Wednesday at 6am EST. Interviews will drop every other Friday at 6am EST.
Art for the podcast was created by Kelly Steen. Editing/Production for the podcast by Bltzwolff (bltzwolff@gmail.com).
WILDCIDE Podcast and any content posted is presented solely for general informational, educational, and entertainment purposes. The use of information on this podcast or materials linked from this podcast or website is at the user’s own risk. It is not intended as a substitute for the advice of a physician, professional coach, psychotherapist, or other qualified professional, diagnosis, or treatment. Users should not disregard or delay in obtaining medical advice for any medical or mental health condition they may have and should seek the assistance of their healthcare professionals for any such conditions.
Wednesday Jul 17, 2024
Inside the Criminal Mind: The Murder of Lisa Dahm Carlson
Wednesday Jul 17, 2024
Wednesday Jul 17, 2024
Lisa Carlson (nee Dahm) grew up in a military family and after moving around quite a bit throughout her childhood, Lisa and her family finally settled down in Tacoma, Washington. Not long after graduating high school and pursuing a career in the health field, Lisa ended up meeting and marrying a man named Daniel Carlson in 1994. By all accounts, Lisa was a wonderful mother to the couple’s twin boys and was described as vivacious and full of life. Tragically, that all came to an end on July 18, 1998. Daniel Carlson came home from work to find his wife murdered on the living room sofa posed in a sexually graphic way. Pierce County investigators all agreed that the crime scene was unlike anything they had ever seen in their careers, and it just didn’t make sense. For three years, Lisa’s case would remain open but eventually went cold. It wasn’t until investigators brought in the world-renowned retired FBI profiler Mark Safarik before there would any new leads in Lisa’s murder investigation. This case highlights the importance of utilizing behavioral analysis as a tool in murder investigations to bring unique perspectives that are often crucial in solving cases. Hang out with us as we wade through the bizarreness that is this case and while we thank goodness for people like Mark Safarik for helping solve so many cold cases in his career.
***Make sure to tune in on Friday, July 19th to listen to the interview episode with FBI Profiler Mark Safarik as we discuss criminal profiling. ***
To watch the full episode of this case: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4x6plx
Resources:
Need Help with Enmeshment? Dr. Kenneth Adams is the leader in the field of Enmeshment: https://www.overcomingenmeshment.com/
Enmeshed families: https://www.overcomingenmeshment.com/services/enmeshed-families/
Enmeshed Sons: https://www.overcomingenmeshment.com/services/enmeshed-sons/
Enmeshed Daughters: https://www.overcomingenmeshment.com/services/enmeshed-daughters/
A great Podcast Episode regarding Understanding Enmeshment: https://theadultchair.com/podcasts/256/
A great Podcast Episode regarding Enmeshment, Codependency and Boundaries: https://theadultchair.com/podcasts/284/
Thanks for listening! If you want to support us, you can follow/subscribe to “WILDCIDE” on your favorite podcast listening app. While you’re there, please rate and leave us a review – we would really appreciate it! You can also visit our website at www.wildcidepodcast.com (merch now available!)
Make sure to get updates by following us on Instagram (@wildcidepodcast) and Facebook (Wildcide Podcast). Don’t forget Wildcide Wednesdays- new episodes drop every Wednesday at 6am EST. Interviews will drop every other Friday at 6am EST.
Art for the podcast was created by Kelly Steen. Editing/Production for the podcast by Bltzwolff (bltzwolff@gmail.com).
WILDCIDE Podcast and any content posted is presented solely for general informational, educational, and entertainment purposes. The use of information on this podcast or materials linked from this podcast or website is at the user’s own risk. It is not intended as a substitute for the advice of a physician, professional coach, psychotherapist, or other qualified professional, diagnosis, or treatment. Users should not disregard or delay in obtaining medical advice for any medical or mental health condition they may have and should seek the assistance of their healthcare professionals for any such conditions.
References:
Clarridge, C. (2003, April 4). The Seattle Times. https://archive.seattletimes.com/archive/?date=20030404&slug=murder04m
Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/196076641/lisa_ann-carlson: accessed June 3, 2024), memorial page for Lisa Ann Dahm Carlson (28 Jun 1971–18 Jul 1998), Find a Grave Memorial ID 196076641, citing Mount Airy Cemetery, Natrona Heights, Allegheny County, Pennsylvania, USA; Burial Details Unknown; Maintained by Erin (contributor 46599159).
Mackie33. (2016, October 13). Killer instinct with Mark Safarik S01E02 ~ murder with a twist : Carol & Daniel Carlson - Video Dailymotion. Dailymotion. https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4x6plx
Smith, B. H. (2023, December 30). After a husband murders wife, his mom helps him stage an X-rated crime scene. Oxygen Official Site. https://www.oxygen.com/snapped/crime-news/dan-carlson-murders-lisa-carlson-has-mom-carol-help-cover-up
State v. Carlson, 132 Wn. App. 1058, 132 Wash. App. 1058 (Wash. Ct. App. 2006)
Wednesday Jul 10, 2024
Little Shop of Horrors: The Murders of Holger Holz and Manfred Hinterberger
Wednesday Jul 10, 2024
Wednesday Jul 10, 2024
Goidsargi Estibaliz Carranza Zabala, better known as Esti, wanted what most women want, a happy, married, successful life. Fleeing from her life in Spain after the heartbreaking end of a 5 year relationship, Esti found a new in Germany and then Austria working at an ice cream parlor and quickly finding love and then a marriage to Holgen Holz…then Manfred Hinterberger… then Roland R. When the relationships would turn sour her fantasies of killing or revenge would overtake her and her preferred tools: a gun, chainsaw, and cement. Planning is key when devious actions are involved, unfortunately sometimes parts are left exposed. Relationships can be as sweet as ice cream but can also land you in a freezer.
Thanks for listening! If you want to support us, you can follow/subscribe to “WILDCIDE” on your favorite podcast listening app. While you’re there, please rate and leave us a review – we would really appreciate it! You can also visit our website at www.wildcidepodcast.com (MERCH NOW AVAILABLE!)
Make sure to get updates by following us on Instagram (@wildcidepodcast) and Facebook (Wildcide Podcast). Don’t forget Wildcide Wednesdays- new episodes drop every Wednesday at 6am EST. Interviews will drop every other Friday at 6am EST.
Art for the podcast was created by Kelly Steen. Editing/Production for the podcast by Bltzwolff (bltzwolff@gmail.com).
WILDCIDE Podcast and any content posted is presented solely for general informational, educational, and entertainment purposes. The use of information on this podcast or materials linked from this podcast or website is at the user’s own risk. It is not intended as a substitute for the advice of a physician, professional coach, psychotherapist, or other qualified professional, diagnosis, or treatment. Users should not disregard or delay in obtaining medical advice for any medical or mental health condition they may have and should seek the assistance of their healthcare professionals for any such conditions.
References:
Payreder, M., & Peyerl, R. (2020, May 14). Das Geständnis der Estibaliz Carranza. Kurier. https://kurier.at/chronik/wien/das-gestaendnis-der-estibaliz-carranza/1.263.891Kackley, R. (2017). True love, too late: A Shocking True Crime Story. Createspace Independent Publishing Platform.Nelson, J. (2024, January 16). 50+ true crime stories that will shock you to your core. Thought Catalog. https://thoughtcatalog.com/january-nelson/2018/07/true-crime-stories/Blanco, J. I. (n.d.). Estibaliz Carranza | Murderpedia, the encyclopedia of murderers. https://murderpedia.org/female.C/c/carranza-estibaliz.htmMaurer, C. (2014, November 16). The interview with the ice-cold killer “I murdered because I loved!” Blick. Retrieved July 10, 2024, from https://www.blick.ch/ausland/das-interview-mit-der-eiskalten-killerin-ich-mordete-weil-ich-liebte-id3275374.htmlKazim, H. (2018, September 8). a-47d45d10-0001-0001-0000-000001226978. DER SPIEGEL, Hamburg, Germany. https://www.spiegel.de/panorama/justiz/doppelmoerderin-estibaliz-carranza-buch-zelle-14-ueber-die-eislady-a-1226978.htmlCarranza, E., & Prewein, M. (2014). Meine zwei Leben: Die wahre Geschichte der Eislady.Wikipedia-Autoren. (2019, July 24). Estibaliz Carranza. https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estibaliz_Carranza#cite_note-kurier1-1
Friday Jul 05, 2024
Survivor Interview: Patricia Wenskunas, Founder/CEO of Crime Survivors Inc.
Friday Jul 05, 2024
Friday Jul 05, 2024
Patricia Wenskunas is the Founder/CEO of Crime Survivors Inc. and has gained national renown for her tireless advocacy on behalf of the victims of violent crime. Crime Survivors is dedicated to the proposition that with community support, respectful advocacy and hopeful healing, one can survive a violent crime, and thrive in their personal lives. Ms. Wenskunas stresses the important distinction between being a victim and a survivor, and it is this mindset that forms the basis for the organization’s universally-praised work.
Ms. Wenskunas’ passion to assist those who have been victimized by criminal attacks and tragedy is driven by her own personal experiences at the hands of a vicious assailant in her own home on April 4, 2002, and the humiliation and injustice she experienced at the hands of the criminal justice system. In both instances, Ms. Wenskunas fought back and prevailed. It was through these tremendously negative experiences that she found her courage and her voice, and has used them both to help others to be transposed from victims to survivors ever since.
Ms. Wenskunas was one of the early proponents of California’s Victim’s Bill of Rights known as “Marsy’s Law,” a state constitutional amendment that was passed into law by California’s voters in 2008. Intended to help re-balance the scales of justice so that survivors and the families of murder victims would have rights too, “Marsy’s Law” is now part of the California State Constitution, as well as certain sections of the state’s Penal Code.
Ms. Wenskunas’ civic involvement extends well beyond the organization she founded. She is the Founder and former CEO of Orange County Crime Stoppers, an Advisory Board member at CalVCP, a Board member at Crime Victims United, and a past Board Member for The Children’s Advocacy Center and California Crime Stoppers.
Professionally, Patricia’s has found success as the owner of Creative Coordinating, a catering and event planning company. Her culinary artistry and event planning expertise has helped to make the firm one of Orange County’s leading catering and event planning companies. Ms. Wenskunas remains passionately involved with victim’s rights issues and is an acknowledged spokesperson who is frequently sought out to deliver awareness on a host of issues through presentations for church groups, high schools, forums, women’s groups, victims organizations & law enforcement agencies.
Patricia has paved the way for victims of violent crime to truly survive and thrive. Today she forges ahead fighting and championing for victims when they don’t have the strength to do it on their own. She has truly become a voice for the voiceless.
Resources:
A list of all Crisis Hotlines Available: https://www.apa.org/topics/crisis-hotlines and https://www.pleaselive.org/hotlines/
Patricia’s Website: https://patriciawenskunas.com/
Survivor Resources: https://crimesurvivors.org/survivor-resources/
Find Support: https://dev--crimesurvivors.netlify.app/guide/
Recommended Reading/Books: https://crimesurvivors.org/recommended-reading/
Programs: https://crimesurvivors.org/programs/
Find a Therapist: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists
Specialized Trauma Therapy (EMDR): https://www.emdr.com/
Thanks for listening! If you want to support us, you can follow/subscribe to “WILDCIDE” on your favorite podcast listening app. While you’re there, please rate and leave us a review – we would really appreciate it! You can also visit our website at www.wildcidepodcast.com (MERCH NOW AVAILABLE!) Make sure to get updates by following us on Instagram (@wildcidepodcast) and Facebook (Wildcide Podcast). Don’t forget Wildcide Wednesdays- new episodes drop every Wednesday at 6am EST. Interviews will drop every other Friday at 6am EST. Art for the podcast was created by Kelly Steen. Editing/Production for the podcast by Bltzwolff (bltzwolff@gmail.com).
WILDCIDE Podcast and any content posted is presented solely for general informational, educational, and entertainment purposes. The use of information on this podcast or materials linked from this podcast or website is at the user’s own risk. It is not intended as a substitute for the advice of a physician, professional coach, psychotherapist, or other qualified professional, diagnosis, or treatment. Users should not disregard or delay in obtaining medical advice for any medical or mental health condition they may have and should seek the assistance of their healthcare professionals for any such conditions.
Wednesday Jul 03, 2024
Surviving a Predator: Patricia Wenskunas' Tale of Survival
Wednesday Jul 03, 2024
Wednesday Jul 03, 2024
In June of 2001, 32 yo Patricia Wenskunas was a single mother living in Irvine, CA struggling with body image issues and disordered eating due to an extensive history of trauma. So June of that year, Patricia decided to seek some help to finally get through the struggles she had for years. She found herself at 24 Hour Fitness near Irvine working with Jeffrey Kelavos, a personal trainer who claimed to be a registered nurse who also had knowledge of eating disorders. What a perfect fit, right? However, over the course of the next 9 months, things would start to shift in Jeffrey’s behavior, and he began controlling more and more of Patricia's life. On April of 2002, everything in Patricia’s life would come to a screeching halt. Patricia would soon fall victim to someone she trusted who drugged her, viciously attacked her, and tried to kill her. Somehow, Patricia managed to escape, and thus began the excruciating journey of life after surviving attempted murder. Don’t miss this episode as we discuss just how easy it is to fall victim to highly manipulative and exploitive predators as well as the many aspects of re-victimization that survivors of crime often face at the hands of the legal system. We want to give an extra special ‘thank you’ to Patricia herself who collaborated with us, provided guidance and consent to share her story. Make sure to tune in on Friday to listen to the interview with Patricia Wenskunas herself as she shares her survival experience firsthand, her post-victimization journey, and life-long advocacy for victims of crime.
Resources:
Patricia’s Website: https://patriciawenskunas.com/
Survivor Resources: https://crimesurvivors.org/survivor-resources/
Find Support: https://dev--crimesurvivors.netlify.app/guide/
Recommended Reading/Books: https://crimesurvivors.org/recommended-reading/
Programs: https://crimesurvivors.org/programs/
Find a Therapist: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists
Specialized Trauma Therapy (EMDR): https://www.emdr.com/
Thanks for listening! If you want to support us, you can follow/subscribe to “WILDCIDE” on your favorite podcast listening app. While you’re there, please rate and leave us a review – we would really appreciate it! You can also visit our website at www.wildcidepodcast.com (MERCH NOW AVAILABLE!) Make sure to get updates by following us on Instagram (@wildcidepodcast) and Facebook (Wildcide Podcast). Don’t forget Wildcide Wednesdays- new episodes drop every Wednesday at 6am EST. Interviews will drop every other Friday at 6am EST. Art for the podcast was created by Kelly Steen. Editing/Production for the podcast by Bltzwolff (bltzwolff@gmail.com).
WILDCIDE Podcast and any content posted is presented solely for general informational, educational, and entertainment purposes. The use of information on this podcast or materials linked from this podcast or website is at the user’s own risk. It is not intended as a substitute for the advice of a physician, professional coach, psychotherapist, or other qualified professional, diagnosis, or treatment. Users should not disregard or delay in obtaining medical advice for any medical or mental health condition they may have and should seek the assistance of their healthcare professionals for any such conditions.
References:
ABC 7 News. (2018, April 5). Crime victims’ advocate opens resource center in Santa Ana.
ABC7 Los Angeles. https://abc7.com/orange-county-santa-ana-patricia-wenskunas- domestic-violence/3305520/
Basheda, L. (2019, February 27). Attacked by personal trainer, she fights back and launches annual walk for fellow survivors. Behind the Badge. https://behindthebadge.com/attacked-personal-trainer-fights-back-launches-walk-fellow-survivors/
Burba, R., & Haskin, S. (n.d.). Patricia Wenskunas. https://patriciawenskunas.com/
Los Angeles Times. (n.d.). Patricia A. Wenskunas. https://www.latimes.com/ocb2b/patricia-a-wenskunas
Ponsi, L. (2019, February 27). Newly opened Crime Survivors Resource Center is a place for victims to find healing.
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Wenskunas, P. (2018, June 22). My personal trainer drugged and nearly killed me. VICE. https://www.vice.com/en/article/wjb9dm/the-man-who-almost-killed-me-only-did-120-days-in-jail
Wednesday Jun 26, 2024
Cain and Abel: The Murder of Zetta Camille Arfmann
Wednesday Jun 26, 2024
Wednesday Jun 26, 2024
In November of 1999, Zetta Camille Arfmann was a 14-year-old freshman at Oskaloosa High School in Oskaloosa, Kansas. She had recently moved in with her sister, Heidi Bledsoe, Heidi’s husband, Floyd and the couple’s children Cody and Christian. This move proved good for Camille, as she quickly began to succeed academically, becoming an honor roll student, and found stability with Heidi and Floyd. Shortly after her move, tragedy would strike. On November 5th, 1999, Camille was dropped off at her home by the bus driver wand was seen walking towards her home. That was the last time Camille Arfmann was seen alive. After a frantic search into her disappearance and the discovery of her body days later on a family farm, a small town would be pushed and pulled over allegations that centered around two brothers: Tom and Floyd Bledsoe. It would take 16 years of pain and mystery before the truth finally came to light as to what really happened to Camille. A good old fashioned ‘whodunnit’ case that will have you bewildered and blind-sided at every turn.
Resources:
Justin Wingerter’s book: Four Shots in Oskie
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References:Doornbos, C. (2018, September 24). Original suspect in girl’s murder dies of apparent suicide as case about to berevisited. LJWorld.com. https://www2.ljworld.com/news/2015/nov/13/man-whose-dna-matches-semen-found-1999-murder-vict/Floyd Bledsoe - National registry of exonerations. National registry of exonerations. (2015, December 14).https://www.law.umich.edu/special/exoneration/Pages/casedetail.aspx?caseid=4809
Miller, J. (2019, August 17). Brother’s keeper. The Pitch. https://www.thepitchkc.com/brothers-keeper-2/Possley, M. (2015, December 14). FLOYD BLEDSOE. Floyd Bledsoe - National registry of exonerations.https://www.law.umich.edu/special/exoneration/Pages/casedetail.aspx?caseid=4809Wingerter, J. (2018, September 24). Original suspect in girl’s murder dies of apparent suicide as case about to berevisited. LJWorld.com. https://www2.ljworld.com/news/2015/nov/13/man-whose-dna-matches-semen-found-1999-murder-vict/Wingerter, J. (2016, January 10). Four shots in Oskie - Part 1: The confessions of Tom Bledsoe. The Topeka Capital-Journal. https://www.cjonline.com/story/news/2016/01/10/four-shots-in-oskie-part-1-confessions-of-tom-bledsoe/11061701007/Wingerter, J. (2016b, January 11). Four shots in Oskie - Part 2: The search for Camille Arfmann. The Topeka Capital-Journal. https://www.cjonline.com/story/news/2016/01/11/four-shots-in-oskie-part-2-search-for-camille-arfmann/11061864007/Wingerter, J. (2016b, January 12). Four shots in Oskie - Part 3: The trial of Floyd Bledsoe. The Topeka Capital-Journal. https://www.cjonline.com/story/news/2016/01/12/four-shots-in-oskie-part-3-trial-of-floyd-bledsoe/11061815007/
Friday Jun 21, 2024
Psychopathy vs. Sociopathy: Interview with Expert Dr. Joseph A. Toomey
Friday Jun 21, 2024
Friday Jun 21, 2024
Y’all. Today is the day we’ve all waited for... We get to interview the real-life sorting hat himself, Dr. Joseph ‘Jay’ Toomey. Come hang with us as we discuss forensic evaluations, primarily criminal evaluations, and as we try to understand what a psychopath actually is. Is there a difference between a psychopath and a sociopath? And how does one become diagnosed, clinically speaking, as a psychopath? Dr. Toomey shares his vast experiences as the person who evaluates these individuals to better understand their needs as well as determine if they are a risk for society.
About our Guest:
Dr. Joseph Toomey is a Licensed Clinical Psychologist, a Designated Forensic Psychologist, an Associate Professor and Associate Chair for the Clinical Psychology Department at William James College (WJC), and the director of academic forensic programs at WJC. He has experience working in a variety of criminal justice settings including county jails, secure forensic psychiatric inpatient units, federal prison, facilities designated for the commitment of sexually dangerous persons, and state correctional facilities.
Dr. Toomey also has extensive experience in teaching college courses in psychology and criminal justice, with a specialization in clinical forensic psychology. He has served as the coordinator for training in Suicide Prevention for all Massachusetts Department of Correction staff including corrections officers, administrators, medical professionals, and mental health professionals. Dr. Toomey provides direct training to staff and also trains mental health staff to administer similar trainings across the state. He has published scientific articles related to identifying feigned mental illness, and psychopathic personality, and has presented research at numerous national and international conferences.
As a Designated Forensic Psychologist, Dr. Toomey completes court ordered forensic evaluations Commonwealth of Massachusetts. These evaluations include assessments of abilities related to competency to stand trial, criminal responsibility (insanity), violence risk assessment, and need for care and treatment. Within this role, he is also a specialty violence risk consultant for the Department of Mental Health.
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Art for the podcast was created by Kelly Steen. Editing/Production for the podcast by Bltzwolff (bltzwolff@gmail.com).
WILDCIDE Podcast and any content posted is presented solely for general informational, educational, and entertainment purposes. The use of information on this podcast or materials linked from this podcast or website is at the user’s own risk. It is not intended as a substitute for the advice of a physician, professional coach, psychotherapist, or other qualified professional, diagnosis, or treatment. Users should not disregard or delay in obtaining medical advice for any medical or mental health condition they may have and should seek the assistance of their healthcare professionals for any such conditions.








